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		<title>More on Emotional Defense</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote on this a good while ago, musing on the effectiveness of playing all-out (emotionally driven, make-a-play-at-all-costs) D vs playing smart (seeking to contain more often than to strike aggressively). ( I find I tend towards containment D more often than not). The example I offered then was that of the layout attempt; it&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote on this <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2006/05/on-defense.html">a good while ago</a>, musing on the effectiveness of playing all-out (emotionally driven, make-a-play-at-all-costs) D vs playing smart (seeking to contain more often than to strike aggressively). ( I find I tend towards containment D more often than not).</p>
<p>The example I offered then was that of the layout attempt; it&#8217;s great to try for the layout D, but a missed bid leaves the thrower unmarked for a couple counts (and against a good team, those few seconds can be enough to seal the fate of the point off of a quick give-n-go or break-side huck).</p>
<p>This same aggression vs containment dichotomy plays out more commonly on the mark.  Often after some tight play, or in tense circumstances, players try to compensate by ratcheting up intensity on the mark.</p>
<p>I usually see this play out with a few consequences:<span id="fullpost"> </span><br />
<span id="more-360"></span></p>
<ol><span id="fullpost"><span id="fullpost"></p>
<li><strong>The mark tends to foul more often.</strong> In any high-level play, this tendency is a liability (allowing free throws); against a weaker (/inexperienced) thrower this may yield the pressure-based turn.</li>
<p></span></span></ol>
<li><strong>The mark gets close.</strong> This ties in to #1 very clearly; again, this can work against weaker throwers, and often will not have dire consequence in the short term, but a close mark is vulnerable to step-through breaks (see <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2009/07/defensive-adjustments-mark-static.html">Marking Adjustments</a> for a bit more on the trade-offs of various spacings).</li>
<li><strong>The mark jumps back and forth more aggressively, and will try more for point blocks.</strong> This is the most frequently exploited tendency in an aggressive mark, and one we all fall victim to from time to time.  The desire to do more than just contain and prevent the break throw, to shift over and ramp up pressure to the open side, often creates the extra pressure intended; as a thrower, however, there&#8217;s nothing easier to beat than a mark that will shift early and often&#8211;without even making a full pivot, a good thrower can deke a mark into giving up an IO or huck angle, or bait an open-side strike to exploit an easy open-side opportunity.  (Conversely, it&#8217;s the patient marks, who know what the thrower wants and refuse to concede it, that prove the most frustrating).</li>
<p><span id="fullpost"> To be clear, there is a time and place for ramping up the pressure and aggressiveness of your mark.  The unexpected strike on an open-side throw, a mark that is right on the border of the disc space call, any shift from a more passive role can and will take a thrower off-guard and may result in the turnover you seek; but don&#8217;t forget that <strong style="color: red;">it&#8217;s establishing a consistent D <em>first</em>&#8211;having a baseline to vary from</strong><strong><span style="color: red;">&#8211;</span></strong><strong style="color: red;">that makes aggression effective</strong>. </span></p>
<p>Predictable aggression (or passivity) is exploitable. Be unpredictable to your opponent (but predictable to your teammates; that&#8217;s the real trick to playing Team Defense).</p>


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		<title>Use Pivot Planes For Better Breaking</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you think about your step when you&#8217;re throwing? Not just the mechanics of it (more on that in a later post), but WHERE you step to. Cara Crouch&#8217;s post for the Huddle&#8217;s Team USA issue alludes to &#8220;throw[ing] from a plane that is not parallel to [the mark's]&#8221; for better throwing, and I thought [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think about your step when you&#8217;re throwing?</p>
<p>Not just the mechanics of it (more on that in a later post), but WHERE you step to.</p>
<p>Cara Crouch&#8217;s <a href="http://www.the-huddle.org/issues/21/what-else-makes-a-good-handler/">post for the Huddle&#8217;s Team USA issue</a> alludes to &#8220;throw[ing] from a plane that is not parallel to [the mark's]&#8221; for better throwing, and I thought it was important enough to flesh out a bit more.</p>
<p>There are two extremes to your pivot planes; In practice, your pivot* will of course wind up somewhere between the two.  The planes are relative to your intended throwing direction, e.g. the dump, upfield:<br />
<span id="more-335"></span>
<ul><span id="fullpost"></p>
<li><strong>Horizontal</strong>&#8211;this is the default you see from novice to early-intermediate throwers.  Side-to-side motion; staying in this plane allows success in some situations, but marks tend to work primarily in this plane too, so it turns beating the mark into a pivot speed/reach contest.  Some can win this contest consistently.</li>
<li><strong>Vertical</strong>&#8211;this is where the magic happens when a thrower has the disc in her hands.  As I said above, marks are primarily horizontally concerned; if you catch a mark too close to you in the vertical plane, it generally becomes a simple feat to step forward, <em>through</em> the mark (or &#8220;past&#8221; it if you prefer), and make break throws to all sorts of places on the field.  Conversely, if a mark is too far off, you gain a wider range of options working in the horizontal plane (I&#8217;ve already discussed this a bit talking about <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2009/07/defensive-adjustments-mark-static.html">adjustments on the mark</a>).</li>
<p></span></ul>
<p><span id="fullpost"><br />
The best break throwers I&#8217;ve seen, if perhaps not reliant upon using the vertical plane to create breaks, are at least familiar and comfortable with it.  I think this evolved at first as a response to the hack-tastic mark; step through the mark, draw a foul, get a free chance to try the break!  But even without the foul factor**, it&#8217;s well worth mastering in its own right, a pivotal rung on the ladder climbing from novice to stud.</span></p>
<p><em>*Yes, yes, <a href="http://www.frisbeespew.com/2008/08/11/great-throwers-dont-pivot/" class="broken_link">great throwers don&#8217;t pivot</a>&#8211;when I say &#8220;pivot plane&#8221; I really mean &#8220;step to throw.&#8221; Only one of those alliterates nicely for a title.</em></p>
<p><em>**Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but the &#8220;nightclub&#8221; mark (goal: get in the thrower&#8217;s pants) seems to be on the wane.</em></p>


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		<title>Defensive Adjustments: The Mark (Dynamic)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark (Static) &#124; Mark (Dynamic) &#124; Downfield You&#8217;ve got the disc on the sideline. The mark is counting, &#8220;two, three&#8230;&#8221; You think your buddy Charlie is about to get open, but he slips on the plant and you turn to face the dump as the mark reaches &#8220;five.&#8221; All season long you&#8217;ve practiced looking at [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>You&#8217;ve got the disc on the sideline.  The mark is counting, &#8220;two, three&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You think your buddy Charlie is about to get open, but he slips on the plant and you turn to face the dump as the mark reaches &#8220;five.&#8221;</p>
<p>All season long you&#8217;ve practiced looking at the dump on stall five&#8211;it&#8217;s a quick turn, look, step out and throw, or wait for a cut from the dump and throw.&nbsp; Simple.</p>
<p>This time it&#8217;s different though.  As you turn, as the mark mouths &#8220;five,&#8221; he moves with you.  All of a sudden that mark that was just in your way as you tried to throw upfield is in your way and completely blocking your throws back.  The dump defender is taking away the upline cut.  The only option you&#8217;ve got is a tough inside-out flick.  </p>
<p>This is NOT what you practiced.  You turn the disc over.</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="fullpost"></p>
<p>This is the power of the simple anti-dump adjustment, one of the most prevalent and potent adjustments the mark makes dynamically.</p>
<p>The real power of this adjustment comes when you go from making this a &#8220;sometimes&#8221; play (as in, sometimes the mark decides to shift over) to an &#8220;always&#8221; play (as in, the mark ALWAYS shifts over on stall 5 on the sideline [etc]&#8211;you even have a call for it so the downfield/dump defender can adjust accordingly).</p>
<p>As you know, the dump is one of <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/10/resets-or-most-important-thing-in.html">the most important components</a> of ultimate strategy, so adjustments you can make on defense to pressure it are always worthwhile (assuming you can actually execute on said adjustments).  You can vary the count at which this shift is made&#8211;perhaps you shift earlier, on stall 2 or 3, against a weaker thrower, or a team that habitually looks offline earlier, and you can vary the extent to which you move around at other positions as well&#8211;I&#8217;ve seen it against horizontal offenses where in sideline situations the third, far-side handler defender will flare out into the lane to really discourage early-stall count throws (and then book it back once the thrower commits to the dump&#8211;I&#8217;m thinking particularly of this year&#8217;s <a href="http://college2009.upa.org/video/open-finals">Carleton v. Colorado finals video</a>, where the amount on pressure Carleton puts on resets is an unheralded factor in their early lead and eventual win).</p>
<p>Other dynamic adjustments to the mark I&#8217;ve seen:
<ul>
<li>Throwing a flat/straight-up mark for a couple counts early to get in the way and pressure hucks in flow, before shifting to a more conventional mark to pressure breaks/resets.  I&#8217;ve seen run as an adjustment against just a team&#8217;s stud thrower (who presumably is making all these throws) or against a whole team or handler corps if the team as a whole likes to huck.&nbsp; </p>
</li>
<li>At one point DoG (and DoG-coached college teams in NE) implemented a truly dynamic mark (as opposed to the planned shifts I&#8217;m talking about here); in this case the mark would leap from one side to the other, shifting the force entirely, in order to shut down hucks going one way or the other.  This had the downside of making under cuts relatively easier (what with all the shifting downfield defenders had to do), but the goal was of course to shut down the deep game and when the communication worked (it took a lot of work on the sidelines to communicate when to shift back and forth), it met its goal.  </li>
</ul>
<p>The main advantage to making these dynamic adjustments is the shift in control they confer.  Typically a defense has to throw a zone, something radically different from the &#8220;normal&#8221; man D to take control of a game and force the O to respond; even things like changing to a force-middle defense are something the offense reads and adjusts to in a short span (at a high level).&nbsp; With some simple but well-coordinated work on the mark and downfield, the D again gains an upper hand of a sort&#8211;just as a cutter has an advantage on her defender because she can choose where and when to cut, a defense that plans on adjusting dynamically gains a second or two of control that the offense must respond to.</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t always be the case that those couple seconds will stop the O and get a turn, but barring a psychic offense or a failure to execute, it will slow them down&#8211;if not contain them.</p>
<p>There remains a lot of untapped potential in using the extra sideline eyes (or even other players on-field) to guide the mark and the rest of the team&#8217;s defense&#8211;more on sidelines in a later post, but think about the potential of a well-coordinated defensive line, adjusting on the fly, yet in sync thanks to some outside guidance. The very best defensive lines develop this sort of chemistry over time, but how might we plan and guide this development?&nbsp; How do you institutionalize it?</p>
<p>There remains a TON of room for defensive growth here.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll wrap up (probably) with downfield adjustments next week.&nbsp; Am I missing anything here? Fill in the gaps in the comments.</span></p>


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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark (Static) &#124; Mark (Dynamic) &#124; Downfield This is easily the most powerful role on the ultimate field. DO NOT SLACK OFF ON THE MARK!!! While a mark cannot be expected to take away a whole section of the field with any consistency, a mark can and should be able to make offense difficult in [...]]]></description>
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<p>This is <i>easily</i> the most powerful role on the ultimate field.  DO <b>NOT</b> SLACK OFF ON THE MARK!!!</p>
<p>While a mark cannot be expected to take away a whole section of the field with any consistency, a mark can and should be able to make offense difficult in a number of directions by a number of strategies.</p>
<p>Making an adjustment using the mark has two flavors: <span style="color: red;">static</span> and <span style="color: blue;">dynamic</span>.&nbsp; The latter involves smart use of the former, so I&#8217;ll keep this post limited to static adjustments.<span id="fullpost"></p>
<p>Static adjustments are <span style="color: red;">long-term changes</span> (point to point, perhaps throw to throw).</p>
<p>For example, as referenced in <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2009/06/defensive-adjustments-key-to-high-level.html">the original post</a>, the mark can make a static adjustment to take away the IO break option if a team is routinely exploiting it.&nbsp; This adjustment can take a couple forms:<br /></span>
<ul><span id="fullpost">
<li><b>The &#8220;Flat Mark&#8221;</b></li>
<p></span>
<div style="text-align: center;"><span id="fullpost">Instead of shuffling on this axis, as you might in a &#8220;standard&#8221; mark:</span></div>
<div style="text-align: right;">
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span id="fullpost"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/Skr1k8YHRII/AAAAAAAACaE/Mc767S7rR9Y/s1600-h/Mark_1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/Skr1k8YHRII/AAAAAAAACaE/Mc767S7rR9Y/s320/Mark_1.jpg" /></a></span></div>
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<div style="text-align: center;"><span id="fullpost">The mark moves like this:</span></div>
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span id="fullpost"><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/Skr1mcNxRLI/AAAAAAAACaM/25dgby9G9yc/s1600-h/Mark_Flat.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/Skr1mcNxRLI/AAAAAAAACaM/25dgby9G9yc/s320/Mark_Flat.jpg" /></a></span></div>
<p><span id="fullpost">This allows the mark to shuffle or set up a bit more in-line with the thrower, almost in a straight-up force.  This can be effective against IO breaks that are made with a wide step; however, throwers who break by stepping <span style="font-style: italic;">through</span> the mark are unlikely to be stopped.
<li><b>The &#8220;Stagger&#8221;<br /></b></li>
<p></span>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div>
<p><span id="fullpost">This is my preferred way to make the adjustment.  Taking a cue from <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2007/01/ucpc-review-part-2-marking-techniques.html">Ben Wiggins&#8217; talk on marking</a> at the &#8217;06 <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/search/label/UCPC">UCPC</a>, the mark can stagger with one foot back:    </span>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span id="fullpost"><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/Skr1nnE_wOI/AAAAAAAACaU/DM4R6FiX5Mg/s1600-h/Mark_Stagger.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/Skr1nnE_wOI/AAAAAAAACaU/DM4R6FiX5Mg/s320/Mark_Stagger.jpg" /></a></span></div>
<p><span id="fullpost">In this instance, the mark&#8217;s left foot is further back; this allows the mark to &#8220;block back&#8221; more, and creates extra space that a step-through break thrower has to penetrate.  This still allows for some open-side pressure, but it&#8217;s not as imposing as the &#8220;flat&#8221; mark, applying a bit less pressure.
<li><b>The &#8220;Step Off&#8221;</b></li>
<p>This is perhaps the &#8220;best&#8221; (read: most consistent) way to take away the IO.  Check <a href="http://forceflick.blogspot.com/2009/06/nationals-stanford.html">Force Flick</a> for a bit more on the merits of this (he&#8217;s describing something slightly different, but the same idea applies). </span></ul>
<ul>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><span id="fullpost"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/Skr1pPJQujI/AAAAAAAACac/tU_SjsZTPBg/s1600-h/Mark_Step_Off.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/Skr1pPJQujI/AAAAAAAACac/tU_SjsZTPBg/s320/Mark_Step_Off.jpg" /></a></span></div>
<p><span id="fullpost">Essentially, by stepping off, the extra buffer space you&#8217;ve created makes it near impossible for the thrower to step through the mark, or to get a quick release past you (extra space means extra time to react).  The big trade-off, of course, is that this mark really concedes the around&#8211;perhaps not an attacking around for yards, but a dump cutter can be led pretty easily into the backfield for good horizontal position.&nbsp; You&#8217;re trading the certainty of stopping breaks to your specific area for less pressure on throws to other spaces.</span></ul>
<p><span id="fullpost"><br />Adjustments to take away the around employ similar methods to the &#8220;flat&#8221; mark, only the mark is angled to take away the backfield while conceding the inside a bit more; a &#8220;staggered&#8221; mark or a &#8220;step off&#8221; mark can work too, but unlike the inside, where the mark&#8217;s ability to penetrate the mark is essential, an around break goes <span style="font-style: italic;">around</span> the mark (duh), so the crucial thing is less to prevent the throw and more to pressure as many angles as possible&#8211;it&#8217;s difficult to stop the throw entirely without completely conceding upfield throws, but you can at least force passes into a smaller lane or backwards.</p>
<p>All of these adjustments have their weaknesses, of course. Once a team/player is capable of making static adjustments, the next level is making the mark dynamic, able to shift between states on the fly during the stall count.&nbsp; More on this in a later post.&nbsp; Again, look at <a href="http://forceflick.blogspot.com/2009/06/nationals-stanford.html">Force Flick</a> for ideas on how this should work.</span></p>


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		<title>Handler Defense</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Learn it, do it, own it. Want to be an elite ultimate player? Learn how to play good handler defense. Related posts:Handler? Know Thyself. I &#60;3 Gwen Ambler. Or, What Kind of Handler/Cutter are You? College Defense: Minimize Threat, or Maximize D Opportunities?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://forceflick.blogspot.com/2009/02/handler-defense.html">Learn it</a>, do it, own it.</p>
<p>Want to be an elite ultimate player?  Learn how to play good handler defense.</p>


<p><strong>Related posts:<strong></p><ol><li><a href='http://www.ultimatethoughts.com/2009/02/handler-know-thyself.html' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Handler? Know Thyself.'>Handler? Know Thyself.</a></li>
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		<title>Improving Mobility on the Mark</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, so I&#8217;ve said you should be mobile on the mark. I&#8217;ve said you should work to stay balanced. Great. How? Hint #1. Guess what lift the mark shares body positioning with? You got it, the squat.(Hint 1a. You lift on your heels. What do you mark on?) Hint #2. The squat is a stationary [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font Face=Georgia>OK, so I&#8217;ve said you should <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/11/marking-thought-be-mobile.html?showComment=1227445740000">be mobile on the mark</a>.  I&#8217;ve said you should work to <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/11/marking-thought-stay-balanced.html">stay balanced</a>.  Great.</p>
<p>How?</p>
<p>Hint #1. Guess what lift the mark shares body positioning with?  <span id="fullpost">You got it, the squat.</span>(Hint 1a.  You lift on your heels.  What do you mark on?)</p>
<p>Hint #2. The squat is a stationary lift.  Is marking stationary?  Which direction are you moving primarily when you mark?  <span id="fullpost">Hey, horizontal (in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_plane">frontal plane</a>)!</span></p>
<p>Hint #3. Core strength enables what is a &#8220;reach&#8221; for some to be easy for others.  <span id="fullpost">Athletes are Athletes for a reason.</span></p>
<p>Hint #4. How do you teach players to use their legs instead of relying on their reach on the mark? <span id="fullpost">Courtesy of one Peter &#8220;Socks&#8221; Bonanno, &#8217;08, #88, I&#8217;d like to date, he&#8217;s really great&#8230;we call it the <span style="font-weight:bold;">black knight</span> drill.  (Yes, I know&#8211;<a href="http://www.the-huddle.org/features/college-development-part-ii/separate-skill-elements/">Miranda Roth in The Huddle</a> beat me to it already.  But I&#8217;ve had this written out for a while, and redundancy only reinforces the utility of the thing).</p>
<p>Really simple.  Take your regular marker drill&#8230;and start channeling Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail (&#8220;<a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail#The_Black_Knight">Just a flesh wound.</a>&#8220;).  Mark as normal, but put your hands behind your back.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not exactly going to stop a lot of throws here.  Try and resist the urge to footblock (too much), and focus instead on moving your <span style="font-style:italic;">body</span> such that you force the thrower to move (fake, pivot, or otherwise) once or twice.  Your thrower should start off with fairly basic pivoting and faking just to allow the marker to get used to the notion of moving to follow before making a serious attempt to throw past.  Keep the drill relatively honest, no over-the-tops and try to avoid the temptation to take the shot through the big hole left by no arms (make the mark work laterally rather than frustrating her with a quick break past the body at stall one).</p>
<p>Of course, you can scale this any number of ways.  Early last year we would start a marker drill with some 5 seconds of Black Knight (with no throw) before allowing the mark to use his hands and the thrower to make his pass, which seems like a nice compromise between learning and practice (the dichotomy coming from the eternal dilemma in which things that might help the team learn more quickly [i.e., dedicated, focused, deliberate drilling, with no consequences] are not as appealing to players as jumping in headfirst and &#8220;practicing&#8221; or scrimmaging, which is essentially just performance with lower stakes than a real game or tourney).  </p>
<p>I think it might have been one of <a href="http://www.brown.edu/Athletics/Mens_Ultimate/zipstips/index.html">Zip&#8217;s Tips</a> (though I can&#8217;t find it now) to always push beyond your comfort zone in marker drill; if you&#8217;re not getting point blocked or turfing every so often, you&#8217;re not expanding your repertoire enough.  This applies just as much if not more so for the guy on the mark as the guy with the disc.  Figure out your thrower.  Experiment with baiting.  Choose what throw you&#8217;re going to make your quarry take, and deny everything else with extra gusto.  Learn.</span></font></p>


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		<title>Marking Thought: Stay Balanced</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I alluded to the importance of not reaching (by which I mean &#8220;over-extending.&#8221; Certainly you will use your hands and arms while marking) when I wrote about being mobile. The opposite of reaching is balance. Balance originates from your core. Balance means not overextending yourself (don&#8217;t get caught reaching!). Balance means being poised to respond [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font Face=Georgia>I alluded to the importance of not reaching (by which I mean &#8220;over-extending.&#8221;  Certainly you will use your hands and arms while marking) when <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/11/marking-thought-be-mobile.html?showComment=1227445740000">I wrote about being mobile</a>.  The opposite of reaching is <span style="font-weight:bold;">balance.</span></p>
<p>Balance originates from your core.</p>
<p>Balance means not overextending yourself (don&#8217;t get caught reaching!).</p>
<p>Balance means being poised to respond to anything the thrower will, well, throw at you.<span id="fullpost">  Don&#8217;t get lulled into a false sense of security&#8211;stay poised to deny the thrower&#8217;s options.  (An awareness of where the threats are behind you&#8211;dump? streaking cutter deep?&#8211;help significantly to this end).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a challenge to develop the mobility, and particularly the discipline to avoid reaching on the mark and to strive for balance.  But really, how many point blocks have you seen come from a guy leaning over and reaching?  How many pictures have you seen of a thrower breaking a mark who is practically falling over, she&#8217;s reaching so hard?</p>
<p>Of course, rules are made to be broken, and you&#8217;ll find that the big reach (the layout on the mark, the foot-block attempt) will occasionally work at causing a turn, if for no reason other than the sheer surprise of the thing.  Sometimes <a href="http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=120074">David Ortiz</a> can steal second because the catcher isn&#8217;t expecting the 230(+)-pound DH to be fleet enough to try in the first place.  Doesn&#8217;t mean it should be your standard.  Discipline yourself.  Learn by the conventional wisdom so you can cast it aside in the instants where it is most effective.</p>
<p>More on mobility and balance on Thursday.<br /></span></font></p>


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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s a time and a place for near and far spacing. Incidentally, the spacing and location of your mark can and should be changing over time. Jackson makes some good points about the utility of spacing between yourself and your mark, so start there: Are you looking to prevent the break throw? If so, back [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font Face=Georgia>There&#8217;s a time and a place for near and far spacing.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the spacing and location of your mark can and should be changing over time.  <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/11/marking-thought-hole-y-mark.html?showComment=1226903520000#c5223239950789015260">Jackson makes some good points</a> about the utility of spacing between yourself and your mark, so start there:<br />
<blockquote>Are you looking to prevent the break throw? If so, back up. You&#8217;re right that you can easily get your arm past a close mark, and by being farther away you&#8217;ll have more time to react to pivots, fakes and throws.<br />However, if you&#8217;re looking to put pressure on hucks, then get close. Yes, you might get broken sometimes, but if your defensive strategy is to pressure hucks, while still keeping substantial pressure on break throws, then I think close is the way to go.<br /><span id="fullpost"><br />Most throwers today will be able to break marks regardless of how you mark. I think that (in general) marking to prevent break-throws is a losing battle. The better approach is to realize that break throws will go off, but by pressuring them, you can increase the chance of a non-perfect throw going off, which gives the downfield defender a chance at a block. Similarly, if you are pressuring hucks, then defenders (who will inevitably be a step or two behind) will have a greater chance at blocking a non-perfect throw. A far mark puts very little pressure on hucks, which makes it very difficult for downfield defense against any team with good throwers</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="fullpost">In short:
<ul>
<li>By increasing your spatial margin between thrower and mark, you increase your temporal margin to stop throws.  With more space comes more time to react.</li>
<p>
<li>However, a tighter spatial margin allows you to apply pressure to a larger swath of the field behind the mark, if perhaps at greater risk of being broken.</li>
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<p>I&#8217;m of the opinion that the best marks apply both techniques throughout the duration of a single mark.  As I&#8217;ve already said, be active.  Even if you&#8217;re bouncing around, if you&#8217;re not fundamentally altering your approach to marking dynamically, the thrower is sizing up how to beat what you&#8217;re showing him&#8211;you&#8217;re playing his game.  Showing the thrower different looks through a point and through a stall count can force them to play your game, assuming you leverage your margin intelligently.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also of the opinion that while trying to prevent ALL break throws can be a losing battle, intelligent use of the mark to take away the biggest threat dynamically as the count shifts can be extremely effective.  Similar to how you might look to poach off of a cutter who is sitting pat in the stack without threatening to move, if the mark&#8217;s position allows breaks that the thrower isn&#8217;t currently looking for, you&#8217;ll be able to more effectively pressure the throws she is.</p>
<p>A very simple example of this is shifting the mark around to take away the dump at a high stall count.  When it&#8217;s clear that the thrower only wants to hit the backfield for the dump, a mark can find success in conceding easier throws upfield in order to apply more pressure to the backfield option.</p>
<p>If you extend that approach to include not only dumps but hucks, inside vs. outside breaks (hint: it&#8217;s nearly impossible to throw an IO break past a mark that is a step off), even high vs. low throws, you can present a very dynamic and effective mark.  If your entire defense (including your sidelines) is cued in to this as a defensive strategy, the potential applicability skyrockets as downfield can adjust to what the mark is dynamically taking away&#8211;if the mark shifts to protect the dump, the defender at the front of the stack can shade to take away the IO option, if pressuring hucks, defenders can front their men more confidently, etc.  </p>
<p>This extends to more than simply how close or how far you are from your man (how you angle your mark and how aggressive you are are also key), but one of the easier ways to leverage the mark is by simply looking to take an extra step in or out on the mark as the count shifts&#8211;perhaps you stay tight on the first couple counts to pressure a huck in flow, and then back off a half-step to contain more conventional break/dump looks and avoid drawing a foul at a high count (I guarantee you your high-level club teams teach this very adjustment as a fact of life&#8211;or at least did before the advent of the disc space rule [<a href="http://www.upa.org/ultimate/rules/11th#XIV" class="broken_link">XIV.B.3</a>] as an additional deterrent).  Maybe you start off with a loose mark trap on the sideline of a zone to prevent a quick swing back across the field, and inch in closer to pressure the over-the-top throw attempts after a few seconds.</p>
<p>Incidentally, Stephen Hubbard adds some great points about fouling <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/11/marking-thought-hole-y-mark.html?showComment=1226963340000#c4857166544834393565">in a comment on the last post</a>, and also brings up the important question (among others): aren&#8217;t we just talking about fouling routinely on the close mark?</p>
<p>When I say &#8220;close mark&#8221; I absolutely DO NOT mean foul the thrower.  If you&#8217;re capable of being mobile, you shouldn&#8217;t need to foul.  If you have any kind of intelligent defense behind you, you shouldn&#8217;t need to foul.  If you&#8217;re getting hosed by the other team making hucks in flow with no mark and feel the need to foul to stop it&#8230;try playing smarter defense and taking away those opportunities in the first place (or make adjustments downfield if you can&#8217;t).  There&#8217;s a wealth of strategic options you can employ on the mark and in concert with the mark, and fouling is really never appropriate.  Incidentially, I also find a mark that plays THAT close to be far less effective at stopping any throws (but I also didn&#8217;t practice it terribly much&#8211;there was a time when we had a &#8220;coach&#8221; for all of one tournament that encouraged more physical marking and it didn&#8217;t sit well with me then).  Fouling might win you a few battles, but in the context of the larger war of the game, it is usually not sufficient (teams and players adjust).</p>
<p>Experiment with spacing.  Think about what might serve you best in various field positions, stall counts, matchups, weather conditions, etc.  If you&#8217;re a team strategist, consider the vast potential of a team-wide dynamic mark for shutting down a team&#8217;s preferred offensive options.</p>
<p>For bonus points, consider employing a marking tactic suggested by Ben Wiggins back in Winter &#8217;06: stagger your feet one slightly forward, one slightly back) to facilitate better motion forwards and backwards, as well as to provide a bit more cushioning on a close mark to shield against the IO.  This is hard to explain, and the <a href="http://www.buda.org/ucpc/Archive.html" class="broken_link">UCPC site</a> is apparently down now, so I can&#8217;t link any original materials either.  I&#8217;ll try and flesh it out a bit more in a later post.</span></font></p>


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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patch up the holes in your mark! When I was first learning how to play, I&#8217;d often &#8216;cheat&#8217; in marker drill by throwing through my mark, rather than around it as the drill intended. At least, I thought it was cheating, until I realized that it only worked on some people. If you&#8217;ve played much [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font Face=Georgia>Patch up the holes in your mark!</p>
<p>When I was first learning how to play, I&#8217;d often &#8216;cheat&#8217; in marker drill by throwing through my mark, rather than around it as the drill intended.  At least, I thought it was cheating, until I realized that it only worked on some people.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve played much you&#8217;re probably familiar with the embarrassment that comes with getting broken through the hole under the arm.  What leads to this?</p>
<p>Far as I can tell you have to be aware of a couple of things:<br /><span id="fullpost"><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">1) where you&#8217;re holding your arms.</span>  If you&#8217;re fond of the pteradactyl mark, arms fully extended out, I think you&#8217;ll quickly find that you lack the leathery membrane underneath your arm necessary to fly&#8211;or to stop throws.</p>
<p>This is a minor point of contention amongst ultimate players that I&#8217;ve seen&#8211;some people prefer to keep arms extended and/or up, and show a larger, more imposing mark, while some (myself included) prefer to keep elbows bent and hands low (unless you know the thrower to have a viable/effective high-release backhand, etc).  Really, I think either can be effective given the right personnel and the right circumstances (a big guy with his arms extended CAN be pretty darn intimidating), but I feel like more experienced throwers will take holes that you show them (which you do by extending your arms) more often than they&#8217;ll be intimidated.  Assuming you have the coordination and the spacing to react to throws (more on that in a later post), and assuming your thrower is not a rookie, I think the latter option is the better one.  Bend your elbows and hide that hole under your armpit.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;">2) Your proclivity to reach while moving on the mark</span> is an occasionally-overlooked hole.  When a marker is beaten and knows it&#8211;the thrower has forced the mark into biting too hard on one side, and is winning the race back to the other&#8211;oftentimes the mark while, while shuffling, extend and try to reach as far over to the other side to pressure the throw.  This can be effective sometimes, but with this extension you create a moving hole in your mark that can be exploited, turning your attempt to pressure an around into an easy inside break.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight:bold;">3) How close you are to the thrower</span> will determine how easily you can be broken through your mark.  If you&#8217;re riding up on my leg like a dog in heat, I&#8217;ll hardly even need to step to get my arm past your body.  In such circumstances, a hole you present doesn&#8217;t need to be there for long&#8211;just long enough for the thrower to get past you.  There are few things more demoralizing on the mark than being broken easily while you&#8217;re mentally trying to apply a lot of pressure.  Be wary of being too close and too aggressive&#8211;#2 can combine with a small margin between you and the thrower to leave your mark very vulnerable.  </p>
<p>Feel free to chime in with other relevant factors here.</span></font></p>


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		<title>Marking Thought: Be Mobile</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve touched upon this with my post about staying on your toes, but I didn&#8217;t really discuss how this applies to marking then. The same basic idea applies though: when you&#8217;re shifting positions, in all likelihood you&#8217;re getting up onto your toes before you get off the ground, am I right? A reminder: when I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family:Georgia;">I&#8217;ve touched upon this with my post about <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/08/throwingcuttingdefensive-thought-on.html">staying on your toes</a>, but I didn&#8217;t really discuss how this applies to marking then.</p>
<p>The same basic idea applies though: when you&#8217;re shifting positions, in all likelihood you&#8217;re getting up onto your toes before you get off the ground, am I right? <br /><span id="fullpost"><br />A reminder: when I say &#8220;toes&#8221; I mean the balls of your feet, not the toes themselves.  Common misconception that running on your ACTUAL toes works&#8211;you&#8217;ll wind up hurt and you&#8217;re hamstringing yourself, pun intended.  It&#8217;s the balls&#8211;your heels might touch down slightly depending on how hard you&#8217;re running, but you&#8217;re never resting nor really pushing off your heels so long as you&#8217;re accelerating (stopping is a different story).</p>
<p>Take a second and visualize yourself on the mark.  The thrower takes a big step to the backhand side, pretty clear windup, she puts her head down&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and then throws a convincing fake before pivoting back over to the forehand side.</p>
<p>My question: how were you attempting to stop the huck?  Is it a hand, an arm, your body that&#8217;s in the way?  Yes yes, minutate will vary depending on situation and team defensive strategy.  We&#8217;re talking generic you, no filters applied.</p>
<p>Are you standing still?  Please tell me you&#8217;re not standing still.  PLEASE tell me you&#8217;re not the person that makes me slap my forehead on the other side of the tourney complex standing there with a half squat, your butt stuck out, and your arms outstretched.  Not to call out a whole demographic, but&#8230;rookie women&#8217;s ultimate players, I&#8217;m looking at you.  Get on your toes!</p>
<p>Back to the throw.  Are you reaching? Are you leaning? If you&#8217;re reaching, you&#8217;re toast.  If I get a mark to reach on a fake like that I have a field day jacking it to the other half of the field.</p>
<p>Are you jumping over?  If you&#8217;re jumping, you might be toast here too.</p>
<p>WHEN are you jumping over?  If you&#8217;re waiting until her head is down and the throw is coming, you&#8217;re probably too late.  You&#8217;ll be in time to force a bad throw, for certain, but to touch down quickly enough and with enough presence of mind to respond to the next throwing attempt?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I think:</p>
<p>You move with the <span style="font-style: italic;">step.</span> (Feel free to chime in if you feel differently).</p>
<p>Generally speaking, the only way a thrower is going to get the disc directly past you is if they can throw around you (they can throw through you if you&#8217;ve got holes in your mark, which is a topic for another post).  The number one way to get around you is with use of the pivot (over-the-tops notwithstanding). </p>
<p><a href="http://www.frisbeespew.com/2008/08/11/great-throwers-dont-pivot/" class="broken_link">Great throwers don&#8217;t pivot</a> needlessly, they just pivot when they know they&#8217;ve caught you over committed to the side you&#8217;re currently on and can freely pass the other way.  You have to counter the motion of the thrower by being mobile yourself, and more often than not this means being proactive with your motion, rather than passively waiting for the thrower to exploit your vulnerabilities.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fine line to walk between being proactive, being overly aggressive (biting on a little pivot pump-fake makes the thrower&#8217;s job even easier than throwing off of one pivot), and getting beaten &#8217;cause you&#8217;re too slow.  Better still, this dynamic will shift depending on your tools and your thrower&#8217;s tools (more than anything short of perhaps the jump discs, size and reach disparities can make a big difference here).  Your tall/long-armed wonders generally need to shift less than your shorter types, which tends to work out given that most of us littler guys tend to be a little lower to the ground and more responsive as a result.</p>
<p>Timing on when you move on the mark is crucial, but so is the margin by which you move when you choose to do so.  How far over do you need to go to pressure the throw?</p>
<p>For big throw(er)s, you want to use your body to discourage the throw(insert caveat about situation and the consequences of over committing vs. allowing the big huck here).  For most other situations, unless you have a clear read on your man or have the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape_index">ape index</a> advantage of an orangutan vs. a T-rex, I think you want to get your body to around the same alignment as your thrower&#8217;s hips.  From there, your arms can cover at least enough to make an average thrower think twice (but don&#8217;t get caught reaching!).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the difference of this margin in crappy MS-paint schematic form:<br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/SRlnz_z2aWI/AAAAAAAAANw/VBL-LE30lys/s1600-h/Marking+Schematic+1.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 293px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/SRlnz_z2aWI/AAAAAAAAANw/VBL-LE30lys/s400/Marking+Schematic+1.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267355382186404194" border="0" /></a><br />This is more of what I&#8217;d recommend for a &#8220;normal&#8221; range of mobility.  Blue player is obviously the thrower&#8211;I&#8217;m giving him something approximating normal pivot range for a good thrower.  Red player is on the mark, and is just looking to match up with the hips here.  Orange block is Red player&#8217;s hands, held close to the body.  From this position, there&#8217;s some potential for the reach&#8211;I&#8217;m not saying don&#8217;t reach, I&#8217;m just saying don&#8217;t rely on it and definitely don&#8217;t over commit to stopping a throw with it&#8211;and that reach is within bounds to pressure your normal throws, stop an IO, etc.  Your faster hucks, however, are likely to be deterred a bit less by the threat of simply the reach (again, assuming you&#8217;re dealing with a good thrower), and the general trajectory this permits tends to be pretty much what O and D would expect&#8211;a fairly decent leading throw with some float and some tilt, which generally goes the O&#8217;s way if they&#8217;re making good decisions.</p>
<p>That said, if you can move this far and move this far proactively, you&#8217;ve got a mark that&#8217;s good enough quality to play high-level collegiate ultimate, assuming your marking skills aren&#8217;t severely lacking elsewhere.</p>
<p><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/SRln0O0frhI/AAAAAAAAAN4/jcPX7Vn8IuE/s1600-h/Marking+Schematic+2.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 315px;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Y_Ub33wEPw/SRln0O0frhI/AAAAAAAAAN4/jcPX7Vn8IuE/s400/Marking+Schematic+2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5267355386215640594" border="0" /></a><br />Now the huck-stopper mark.  In this particular iteration I&#8217;ve got the mark going out to about elbow position, which is arbitrary but not without merit.  You can very clearly see that this cuts off a much larger swath of trajectory&#8211;especially if this is a sideline marking position (more on that at some much later point), a throw that has to go this wide and arc that much is far more likely to fall the defense&#8217;s way, particularly when you consider that these types of throws tend to be forced into their paths due to last-second adjustment (anathema to successful hucks in particular).</p>
<p>The downside?  As I alluded to at the beginning of this post, this generally leaves you overextended.  You don&#8217;t often see a mark in this sort of position, and when you do, it&#8217;s only for a second or a half second (generally aided by a &#8220;strike!&#8221; call or similar help), just enough to discourage the huck.  You can tell with a simple look that the distance to cover both ends of that spectrum easily double the more conservative range&#8211;this is why it is important to get to a position like that early, and to be ready to quickly move back to respond to the other side.  Be mobile.  Don&#8217;t even attempt to do this if you&#8217;re not mobile enough to get back and do your primary job of not getting (heinously) broken.  Chances are, you&#8217;re not mobile enough to get in the way quickly enough to pressure the huck, either.</p>
<p>This is the sort of marking capability that gets you an assignment against the other team&#8217;s no. 1 throwing threat, that allows your mark to be a lynchpin of the defense rather than simply a very large piece of the puzzle.  In short, a game-changer.</p>
<p>With good mobility on the mark, you can take away a much larger swath of the field than a stationary mark can, and perhaps even take away a bit more of the field than the other team anticipates&#8211;otherwise known as good defense.  Using your mobility as a weapon is the pinnacle, but the base is being mobile enough to avoid getting fooled and used by the thrower in front of you. </p>
<p>Start by getting on your toes.  The last thing you should do on an ultimate field is take a break on the mark (pun intended! That might be my favorite one yet.  I&#8217;m filing it away for future coaching use, it&#8217;s so good).  (It&#8217;s <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/11/marks-or-other-most-important-thing-in.html">too important</a> to take a break and risk letting down your teammates) Through practice, learn how and where and when to be proactive.  With diligence, learn how and where and when you can get away with being aggressive(ly proactive).  There&#8217;s very little that substitutes for experience here&#8211;I can&#8217;t give a ton of specific advice here because body types and game situations really can make a significant difference.  That said, more basics to come.<br /></span><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">UPDATE</span>: Gwen adds some more <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/2008/11/marking-thought-be-mobile.html?showComment=1227315120000#c1159265530524197654">great pointers on marking</a> in the comments.<br /></span></p>


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		<title>UCPC review: Part 2 (&quot;Marking: Techniques and Tactics&quot;, Ben Wiggins)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mackey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Continuing in my UCPC seminar review, Ben Wiggins&#8217; seminar on marking. It was an interesting seminar&#8211;definitely different from what I was anticipating; instead of perhaps an endorsement of well-known marking strategies, or a long list of little tips, Wiggins goes for the marking jugular, so to speak, with a few solid to useful ideas and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing in my UCPC seminar review, Ben Wiggins&#8217; seminar on marking.</p>
<p>It was an interesting seminar&#8211;definitely different from what I was anticipating; instead of perhaps an endorsement of well-known marking strategies, or a long list of little tips, Wiggins goes for the marking jugular, so to speak, with a few solid to useful ideas and a few more radical, though potentially very useful, ideas, as well as a fair bit about team defense (of which the mark is possibly one of the most important components, as the mark is the most powerful defensive position on the field in terms of space defended by a good mark). Wiggins&#8217; target audience for a lot of these thoughts is elite-level play, where a defense cannot expect the offense to turn the disc over without considerable pressure, and where the offense will likely score with great consistency nonetheless&#8211;where a single turnover or two might be all a D-line needs to win a game, so a lot of these ideas aren&#8217;t necessarily for, say, rec league pickup.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to shoot for more brevity in this post and try to list more than rant. <br /><span id="fullpost"><br />Simple, useful ideas:</p>
<p>
<ul><span id="fullpost">
<li>The notion of &#8220;blocking back,&#8221; whereby a mark reaches away from the thrower rather than towards them when attempting to pointblock; this allows for a slightly longer window to react to the disc&#8217;s movement.</li>
<li>Similarly, Wiggins suggested keeping the head back as far as possible while marking, to give oneself perhaps an extra split-second to see (and perhaps tip/block) a throw</li>
<li>When trying to stop a continuation off of a dump/etc., the player setting the mark should take a very quick glance (glance, don&#8217;t stare) upfield while running to set the mark&#8211;look for a split second, and then process what you see as you run to set the mark, don&#8217;t get caught looking away from the thrower</li>
<li>A good mark will learn which fakes are bad, and will ignore them as non-threats, rather than responding to any movement and letting the handler toy with the mark.</li>
<li>Finish drills! In a dump-swing drill, for example, the last handler and mark should go for 1-2 seconds as though the handler were trying to continue the disc upfield. Over many iterations of a given drill this gives everyone on the team dozens more opportunities to work on marking per practice.</li>
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<p><span id="fullpost">Less simple, but useful ideas:
<ul><span id="fullpost">
<li>Marking with staggered feet&#8211;a bit controversial perhaps, but Wiggins insists it has situational value. Going on the notion of &#8220;blocking back,&#8221; the side which your foot is back on will have a slightly larger window with which to react to a throw on that side (so one generally wants the foot back on the side of the throw that&#8217;s a bigger threat). It also should help with movement toward or away from the thrower to avoid potential fouls.</li>
<li>A moving start out of a stoppage&#8211;instead of standing passively when tapping the disc in on the mark, while the O makes play calls, etc, Wiggins suggests a mark that is moving from one side to the other as the disc is tapped in&#8211;supposedly this takes away certain options and forces the O to adjust immediately as the disc comes in, but I&#8217;m not so sure of its efficacy. Something to try.</li>
<li>The notion of &#8220;baiting,&#8221; where a mark will show one look (say, with hands held as though to stop a high-release, allowing the under) for a few marks/a full point, and then when they know how the handler will throw against this mark, make an adjustment and go for the point block. Definitely a risky proposition in some cases, but against high-level O, a chance like this for a point block is as golden a chance as any you&#8217;ll see.</li>
<li>The idea of always covering the space on field with the mark, instead of the sideline (i.e., having your butt facing the sideline, stopping a backhand when the backhand would be OB anyways): this is common sense to a point, but Wiggins advocates for it to the point where the upline throw, while difficult, is (I think) unacceptably easy to get off. Again, how you implement this would depend on the level of offense you&#8217;re trying to D up. </li>
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<p><span id="fullpost">Team D strategies: you&#8217;d be better served looking at Wiggins&#8217; materials on the UCPC <a href="http://www.buda.org/ucpc/Archive.html" class="broken_link">downloads</a> than my explanation here (UPDATE: note that the link is now broken, with no apparent replacement elsewhere on the internet&#8211;my apologies). It&#8217;s definitely worth noting that a tall, athletic team like Ego designed their D to force deep throws and use their athletes to their advantage, while a team like the Drizzle implemented a team D strategy that focused more on creating havoc and poach opportunities since they were playing a team that was clearly above their heads. Something to consider when thinking about one&#8217;s own team D.</p>
<p>Improving individual/team marks: nothing too revolutionary here, I think. Obviously a fitter mark is a better one. Wiggins suggests keeping stats to assess the quality of marks (yardage allowed), as well as using video. Pickup is a great time to implement new strategies or work to incorporate more elements to your game. It&#8217;s important to scheme one&#8217;s defense to play to one&#8217;s strengths (and/or to dumb down your opponents&#8217; strength). Realize that the best defenders are not always the best markers, and vice-versa. Know who excels at what so you don&#8217;t put a line out that&#8217;s overmatched on the mark, and realize that good marks invariably contribute to errant or rushed throws that result in D&#8217;s downfield.</p>
<p>This was probably the lightest seminar, in terms of relative amount of stuff I might take with me and incorporate. That said, it was still definitely some valuable stuff. </p>
<p>Still in the reviewing queue:</span></span>
<ul><span id="fullpost">
<li>Keynote by Dr. Goldberg </li>
<li>Applying Mental Toughness Strategies by Tiina Booth (ARHS coach) </li>
<li>A Season of High-Level Ultimate by Nathan Wicks (former Brown men&#8217;s coach, &#8217;00-&#8217;05 (note they won championships in his first and last years coaching them)) </li>
<li>Perhaps a brief bit on the Panel Discussion.</li>
</ul>
<p>Probably in that order.  (UPDATE: check the <a href="http://mmackey.blogspot.com/search/label/UCPC">UCPC label</a> for the other recaps)</p>
<p>Some links to other UCPC reviews:<br /><a href="http://www.leanandhungryfitness.com/content_show.cfm/content_id.27969/ultimate_players__coaches_conference_notes">Lean and Hungry Fitness</a><a href="http://gcooke.blogspot.com/2007/01/ucpc-recap.html">George Cooke</a><br /><a href="http://parinella.blogspot.com/2007/01/ucpc-day-1.html">Jim Parinella</a></p>


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